Saturday, November 19, 2005
The torture excusePat Lang has a very good post about torture, in which he describes speaking before audiences where the subject comes up. They don't seem to be surprised by the pragmatica argument against torture, which is that it produces bad information and has various negative consequences.He says people seem more surprised when he says that torture is wrong and dishonorable under any circumstances. Then he addresses the sophomoric argument for torture, which is that someone knows about the location of a nuclear bomb about to go off in the middle of New York City. Wouldn't it be right to torture him like in the movies to get the information. Lang writes (Cheney and the "Tormenters" No Quarter blog 11/07/05): With the conversation having progressed to this point, a look of dramatic, and cynical world-weariness comes over some members of the audience and someone (often a woman) asks me what I would do if the "authorities" had captured "Fulaan Abu Shuismuh" (so and so, the father of what's his name) and this creep has the secret information needed to prevent a terrorist outrage, and won't talk. "Isn't it right to do whatever it takes....."And he describes how he responds to it: That is the question that is always asked, often with a kind of dreamy, far off look in the eyes. I have gotten tired of this Sado-Masochistic day-dreaming, so, in response I ask them how far they would go in "whatever it takes?" | +Save/Share | | |
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